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is this a good area to buy a villa?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2022 7:53pm
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Nicole

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Hi I am thinking of buying a villa in the Pinar de Los Frances/ Bateria Colorada district. Is this a good area to buy? I am single retired and it would just be me and my little mini dachshund 🙂 Nicole

loscanos

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:11am

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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:11am

Make sure the house has proper title deeds and look at the 'nota simple' to see what you can and cannot do in Pinar Frances.  When I looked at a house the man had put a second floor on the house without a permit and the 'nota simple' stated that no business could be run from the house, ie: B an B.

Also make sure there is a well and it is functioning if there is no mains water.

Get a good solicitor to check everything out and don't trust the estate agent as they are not responsible for anything.

Chris33

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:16am

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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:16am

Hi Nicole, we bought our villa in El Marquesado , best thing we ever did, quiet area and friendly neighbourhood. Pinar also has a good range of villas. East 20 minute drive to the beaches  and near to town centre.

If we can assist in any way please let us know.

Chris

Nicole

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:04am

Nicole

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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:04am

loscanos wrote on Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:11am:

Make sure the house has proper title deeds and look at the 'nota simple' to see what you can and cannot do in Pinar Frances.  When I looked at a house the man had put a second floor on the house without a permit and the 'nota simple' stated that no business could be run from the house, ie: B...

... an B.

Also make sure there is a well and it is functioning if there is no mains water.

Get a good solicitor to check everything out and don't trust the estate agent as they are not responsible for anything.

Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question. Regards Nicole.

Nicole

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:06am

Nicole

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Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 9:06am

Chris33 wrote on Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:16am:

Hi Nicole, we bought our villa in El Marquesado , best thing we ever did, quiet area and friendly neighbourhood. Pinar also has a good range of villas. East 20 minute drive to the beaches  and near to town centre.

If we can assist in any way please let us know.

Chris

Good morning Chris, thank you for replying it has been helpful. Regards Nicole

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TempleCAMBRIA

Posted: Sat Oct 8, 2022 5:56pm

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Posted: Sat Oct 8, 2022 5:56pm

This is an article we wrote about the illegal housing problems in the Chiclana area in case it can be of any help:


https://www.costaluzestates.com/consejos/illegal-properties-a-problem-in-chiclana-conil-vejer-barbate-zahara-de-los-atunes-and-tarifa/?fbclid=IwAR0hjzywN0Youkf007ER8EdNPnyW3V-KXxUpYy_197q4l7feRGhqiUCR1As


Regards

TH

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:43am

TH

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:43am

Why can't we have a plan or a map of all the suspected areas, that you are likely to find illegal properties.
The areas mentioned are vast I know they are not all illegal in say El Marquesado.so the article makes it sound like it.

With Google Earth it should be relatively easy to circle the hot spots, or are they not known?

Does this mean that even if you use a lawyer that you could still be sold an illegal property?

Don't the Town Hall charge tax on all these villas?

Chris33

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:06am

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:06am

TH wrote on Mon Oct 10, 2022 1:43am:

Why can't we have a plan or a map of all the suspected areas, that you are likely to find illegal properties.
The areas mentioned are vast I know they are not all illegal in say El Marquesado.so the article makes it sound like it.

With Google Earth it should be relatively easy to circle the hot spots, or are they not known?...

...

Does this mean that even if you use a lawyer that you could still be sold an illegal property?

Don't the Town Hall charge tax on all these villas?

We were advised if the property is mortgage  available  ,it will be all legal. We were advised to take small mortgage then you have back up. Also a good lawyer will help,many out there.We had no issues  in El Marquesado, 

Due diligence will make it easy  and safe to buy

Title deeds,  electricity supply,taxes paid upto date. Recommended  lawyer from someone you trust.

Chris

loscanos

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:47am

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:47am

Chris33 wrote on Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:06am:

We were advised if the property is mortgage  available  ,it will be all legal. We were advised to take small mortgage then you have back up. Also a good lawyer will help,many out there.We had no issues  in El Marquesado, 

Due diligence will make it easy  and safe to buy

Title deeds,  electricity supply,taxes paid upto date. Recommended  lawyer from someone you trust.

Chris

If the property tax, ie. Council tax, has not been paid then the new owner is liable for a few past years. As mine hasn’t been paid I negotiated a slight reduction in the purchase price to cover any liability. 

Good advise to take out a small mortgage. Remember you are the only one in law who is responsible, not the estate agents, lawyers or accountants. Due diligence is the most important phrase.

TempleCAMBRIA

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:32pm

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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 3:32pm

Chris33 wrote on Mon Oct 10, 2022 8:06am:

We were advised if the property is mortgage  available  ,it will be all legal. We were advised to take small mortgage then you have back up. Also a good lawyer will help,many out there.We had no issues  in El Marquesado, 

Due diligence will make it easy  and safe to buy

Title deeds,  electricity supply,taxes paid upto date. Recommended  lawyer from someone you trust.

Chris

Dear Chris, 

With all due respect. If your property is in el Marquesado, your property has 99% probabilities of being illegal. I am a lawyer and have dealt with probably more than 200 sales in your area. Only 2 or 3 had planning permission. In those areas you can only make sure the actions to demolish the property have expired to make sure the house is safe, but this does not make them legal. The fact that you did not have issues it does not mean the property is legal. El Marquesado is a place still not urbanised and thus not suitable for building properties for residential purposes. I am not here to get more business (you can bet I have “enough in my plate”). You can hire whoever you like but trying to buy a property in those places without a good (this is the difficult bit!) lawyer checking the documents is like playing the “Russian roulette”. The most likely thing (only around 10 properties have been demolished in El Marquedado and there are thousands) is that you do not have any issues, but if you have the misfortune of buying the wrong one, you could end up appearing in one of those holiday homes from hell programs. 

The fact with having a mortgage does not guarantee the property either. There are thousands of illegal properties in Chiclana with a mortgage on it.


I am not trying to scare you here. Chiclana can be a really nice place to live but please do your homework and hire someone really knowledgeable on this issue to avoid risking a good amount of your savings


Regards

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